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Re: Unofficial QOTOM Hardware Topic
« Reply #210 on: October 09, 2017, 01:08:16 am »
The QOTOM box I purchased had its mSATA SSD fail 13 days after installation. 

Purchased here:
( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AAKGH88/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 )

Feeling a bit grumpy.  32G SSD was only about 15% used, should have had lots of extra cells to move around in.

Was about a 100 clients with pfBlockerNG + Squid + expanded log files.

That doesn't sound promising...
I just ordered a Q355G4 (with 64GB ssd though).
 
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Re: Unofficial QOTOM Hardware Topic
« Reply #211 on: October 09, 2017, 01:35:13 am »
The QOTOM box I purchased had its mSATA SSD fail 13 days after installation. 

Purchased here:
( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AAKGH88/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 )

Feeling a bit grumpy.  32G SSD was only about 15% used, should have had lots of extra cells to move around in.

Was about a 100 clients with pfBlockerNG + Squid + expanded log files.

Was the SSD branded?

I do not know.  Waiting for the manufacturer to get back to me before I pop the case.  If I end up back in the bios will see what it says there.

Debating between attaching a USB spinning HDD or trying mSATA SLC SSD.  This is my first experience with pfSense so not sure how long SSDs last with it.  Even if the manufacturer sends me a replacement, not sure how much I trust it now.

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Re: Unofficial QOTOM Hardware Topic
« Reply #212 on: October 09, 2017, 03:55:07 am »
You might as well try small, say 80 GB SATA spinner to see if there are any other issues. They are very cheap and easy to find on eBay.

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Re: Unofficial QOTOM Hardware Topic
« Reply #213 on: October 09, 2017, 09:11:59 am »
Official response from "ShenZhen Qotom Technology CO., LTD"

"Hi ----------,

Could you purchase a 32G SSD in local? it will save the shipping time and shipping cost, we can refund the 32G SSD cost USD17.00 to you, is okay?

Thanks.
Best regards
Cherry"

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I felt this was the best possible solution and immediately agreed. 

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I then opened up the case to see what was in there:



The mSATA SSD was:
hOODiSK
P/N:HDSSESB-032GB
Made in Taiwan

I also just realized to my shock and surprise it has 2x mSATA slots. 

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Edit follow up:
To find a USB HDD controller /w external power supply that would work with FreeBSD + Hard drive was getting iffy and expensive for me, like around $80.  I found USB HDD drives without an external power supply for much cheaper, but none inspired confidence.  I have had USB HDD not spin up with USB power before, and it was unknown to me if this box was setup for USB power like that.

I ended up purchasing a new Intel mSATA SLC SSD off of ebay for $40.  With there $17 refund, that puts my increased cost at $23 + 9 days of down time for this item.

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Re: Unofficial QOTOM Hardware Topic
« Reply #214 on: October 09, 2017, 10:43:03 am »
yeah figured it would be some cheapo chinese ssd.

Kingston used to sell enterprise class 32 gig msata, but they suddenly stopped and now if you want something in that price range its china brands only which I think are risky like kingfast.

A review sample from kingfast was sent to a review site some years back which had mislabeled components inside it where the true brand of the chips was scrubbed off, was very dodgy.

So I avoided buying any of these units with an included storage.

my 30 gig kingston was comparable price to a 30 gig kingfast but of course a reputable brand, now in the uk that price range new is chinese brands only, I think I would rather buy a used reputable ssd than a new chinese one.  As I see storage nand as more risky to take a gamble on than things like board capacitors.
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Re: Unofficial QOTOM Hardware Topic
« Reply #215 on: October 09, 2017, 11:07:01 am »
My q355g4 came with an intel 525 30gb ssd.  It's an ok ssd but runs extremely hot - ~60C even during idle.  Too hot for my tastes.  I installed a 2tb 5400 notebook drive instead.

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Re: Unofficial QOTOM Hardware Topic
« Reply #216 on: October 09, 2017, 11:27:03 am »
My q355g4 came with an intel 525 30gb ssd.  It's an ok ssd but runs extremely hot - ~60C even during idle.  Too hot for my tastes.  I installed a 2tb 5400 notebook drive instead.

That's a bit extreme! The 525 is rated for a max of 70 degrees. Maybe it's broken?

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Re: Unofficial QOTOM Hardware Topic
« Reply #217 on: October 09, 2017, 11:46:55 am »
No idea. It works ok, but just runs very hot.  It's in a static bag in a box now. 30GB is borderline useless anyway.  The 5400 drive is humming along nicely at about 38C.

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Re: Unofficial QOTOM Hardware Topic
« Reply #218 on: October 09, 2017, 12:01:32 pm »
30gig is huge for a firewall, curious how you filling it. :)

Also I got a 64 gig kingston sorry for the mistake, as 64gig was same price as 30 at the time.
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Re: Unofficial QOTOM Hardware Topic
« Reply #219 on: October 09, 2017, 01:16:25 pm »
Yes, or what you plan to use the 2TB for?

It's generally better to export logs to a syslog server if you need long term collection and analysis.

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Re: Unofficial QOTOM Hardware Topic
« Reply #220 on: October 09, 2017, 01:38:46 pm »
2TB was the smallest notebook hd i had within reach.  There's the necessary esxi partitions (~5GB), then the rest is all datastore. At present, 2 vm's, the firewall (still utm), and a pbx - freepbx.  Both have 240gb assigned.  The rest will likely be unused.

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Re: Unofficial QOTOM Hardware Topic
« Reply #221 on: October 09, 2017, 03:04:47 pm »
VMs. Fair enough.  :)

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« Reply #222 on: October 11, 2017, 01:35:48 am »
2TB was the smallest notebook hd i had within reach.  There's the necessary esxi partitions (~5GB), then the rest is all datastore. At present, 2 vm's, the firewall (still utm), and a pbx - freepbx.  Both have 240gb assigned.  The rest will likely be unused.

Just ordered a Q355G4 - barebones. I'll supply the RAM and SSD.

I'm planning on doing a similar setup to you, but with a much smaller SSD. Planning on firewall, my web server and toying with the idea of adding my mail server to it as well. with the mail server I would just use the SSD as boot for the VM, the storage for the mail I think could be done using iSCSI to my QNAP raid. Any pitfalls to watch out for?

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Re: Unofficial QOTOM Hardware Topic
« Reply #223 on: October 12, 2017, 08:37:49 am »
Has anyone been running pfblockerng or squid/squidguard on their Qotom without issues?
No problems here with pfblockerng, with a bunch of ipv4 lists and DNSBL enabled for ad blocking.

What Qotom box are you running and did you add your own ssd and ram?

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Re: Unofficial QOTOM Hardware Topic
« Reply #224 on: October 12, 2017, 08:41:05 am »
The one on the way to me is a Q355G4 and is barebones, I'll add my own RAM and drives.