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Offline revsie

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Watchguard Firebox M400
« on: December 20, 2017, 03:16:49 pm »
Hi,

I have received 2 Watchguard Firebox M400's from work, they were just going to throw them out after we got ourselves some new owners who replaced all our IT systems.

I have spoken to a few of you already and was advised to start a brand new thread with details, so here I go.

Ok, things will come in drips and drabs as I take this thing apart.

There are 4 screws holding it together, one on the left, two on the back and one on the right (it's under the void sticker), the top then slides to the rear and voilŗ!

So inside is a Celeron G1820 with 1 4GB stick of DDR3, there is one slot free and I am led to believe the M500 has 8GB, so I don't see any reason why this wouldn't support 8GB. I will scout around for another 4GB stick, I must have one somewhere! There are 2 40mm fans pulling air through from the front, this is channelled through the CPU heatsink and past the RAM, hopefully this keeps it cool enough to support a faster AES-NI based cpu, otherwise might need a bit of modding.

There is a 150W PSU made by FSP, 80 plus silver with 24pin ATX connection and 2 SATA power connectors. There are also 3 SATA data ports on the motherboard.

The hard drive is a 4GB Transcend CF card.

There is a connection on the right hand side of the motherboard and a sticker nearby that talks about a battery so possibly an option for an internal battery backup!?

I will post some more pictures, if you have any questions, please just ask and I will do my best to fill you in.

I don't have a console cable currently, going to try and get hold of one soon.

Cheers guys, looking forward to getting pfSense installed on this bad boy! Also looking forward to upgrading the processor to an AES-NI chip, might not be until after Christmas though.

Pictures are too big to attach so will upload to Google Drive and share.

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Re: Watchguard Firebox M400
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2017, 03:25:22 pm »
Sorry about that guys, I have attached a link to said Google Album with lots of photos. If you want any photos of anything in particular then give me an shout.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/qzDO6Gd7NyZ3k5DM2
« Last Edit: December 20, 2017, 03:29:27 pm by revsie »

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Re: Watchguard Firebox M400
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2017, 04:51:56 pm »
So its got another reverse PCIE adaptor gold fingers, that's annoying again.

3 SATA Ports and two spare SATA power cables.

Looks like a 2.5" will go in next to the power supply nicely. 

Now all we need is to see if the bios is locked down.

You may need to replace the CF card with a live install image and then install to a 2.5" hard drive.  When you have Pfsense up and running you can use flashrom to dump the rom.

Can you see any USB headers on the board?

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Re: Watchguard Firebox M400
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2017, 04:04:47 pm »
Any updates?  ;D Just maybe hoping you got an image of pfsense running on this by now.  :P

Edit: Looks like they use ECC DDR3-1600. Single 4 GB stick makes upgrading to 8GB easy.

Could pick up an i3-4130 for cheap and it adds hyper threading plus a boost from 3.2 to 3.4Ghz all the while only adding 1w to tdp making it 54w. It also gives you AES-NI support. If you're looking for more cores you'll need to go with a Xeon to keep ECC support I believe.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2017, 10:17:51 pm by Scorch95 »

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Re: Watchguard Firebox M400
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2017, 07:55:00 am »
Looks like the battery sticker is a warning about the CMOS battery, not about any extra battery. It even uses the same font as the ones you used to get with Intel retail/OEM motherboards.

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Re: Watchguard Firebox M400
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2018, 09:53:50 am »
Any success? Any progress?

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Re: Watchguard Firebox M400
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2018, 04:43:21 am »
Attached a list of the specs of the other M models
I can add pictures of the M200 box inside, but that's a no go for pfSense box to me.
I have got such a box a month ago, but with no Sata-ports, a Freescale onboard cpu,
and those boxes use U-Bootloader to load the software from the SD card. (yes SD card, and not CF).


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Re: Watchguard Firebox M400
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2018, 05:33:34 am »
Hi guys,

Sorry for the absence but I have been a little busy to say the least!

I haven't had much time to look at this but have received the console cable and also have an I5 4460T which I need to install, maybe a little overkill but low powered.

As soon as I can I will get the CPU installed and see what happens.

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Re: Watchguard Firebox M400
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2018, 05:37:15 am »

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Re: Watchguard Firebox M400
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2018, 05:51:34 am »
These people seem to think pfSense can be installed!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Watchguard-Firebox-m400-firewall-security-appliance-or-PFsense-/122868662426

That's right.
All models above M300, like M400, M440 and M500 should be useable for pfSense.


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Re: Watchguard Firebox M400
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2018, 10:26:31 am »
Any updates?  ;D Just maybe hoping you got an image of pfsense running on this by now.  :P

Edit: Looks like they use ECC DDR3-1600. Single 4 GB stick makes upgrading to 8GB easy.

Could pick up an i3-4130 for cheap and it adds hyper threading plus a boost from 3.2 to 3.4Ghz all the while only adding 1w to tdp making it 54w. It also gives you AES-NI support. If you're looking for more cores you'll need to go with a Xeon to keep ECC support I believe.

After reading your post again Scorch95 I have seen the error of my ways and ordered i3-4130.

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Re: Watchguard Firebox M400
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2018, 06:34:16 pm »
I donít believe youíll run into any problems unless watchguard did something like the XTM8 and specíd It without a COM1 port. Iím waiting as patiently as I can but Iím looking to upgrade from my XTM5 to either an XTM 400 or XTM 470. Iíd like to get the 470 as it uses a skylake processor and a msata drive but either one will keep me good to go with 2.5 and aes-ni.

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Re: Watchguard Firebox M400
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 03:32:30 am »
Well I might try later this evening, if I get time.

I did have 2 of these but just sold 1 for £400, they are sort after so they seem to be a little expensive. I think I was lucky to get one from work!