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About the spam trols
« on: January 03, 2015, 06:07:21 am »
<snipped spam>

1.Post limit for new members?
2. Restricted board for new members?

« Last Edit: January 21, 2015, 10:06:52 pm by cmb »
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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2015, 06:23:52 am »
What about another forum thats more secure??
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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2015, 09:09:09 am »
What do you mean? Something other than SMF?

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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2015, 09:54:18 am »
Yes
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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2015, 11:19:05 am »
To be honest, I kind of like the forum software that FreeNAS uses.
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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2015, 11:27:04 am »
Either FusionBB or IP Board come highly recommended.

Web Wiz forums is the one used here : http://www.spindekrogen.dk

Thats my personal favorite.

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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2015, 12:07:16 pm »
Either FusionBB or IP Board come highly recommended.

Web Wiz forums is the one used here : http://www.spindekrogen.dk

Thats my personal favorite.

I am going to dig up my Netscape Navigator 0.4-B2, I gotta have it somewhere on one of my floppies  ;D
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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2015, 04:46:29 pm »
What about another forum thats more secure??

It's not that anything with SMF is insecure, in fact it has the best security track record of any forum software I've seen. Spam on popular forums is a universal problem, switching forum software won't change that at all. If you have a highly-trafficked forum, it's going to get hit a ton by spam bots (the vast, vast majority of which here are blocked in some fashion before they can do anything).

It happens in waves if you notice, we add something to improve anti-spam in general, things are great for a short period, then that countermeasure is broken by a tiny fraction of the spammers. Others eventually start to catch up. Rinse and repeat.

Recaptcha was the last thing we added/changed, which was highly effective for a while, but has apparently since been broken or else there are humans out there doing the spam registrations for a small percentage.

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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2015, 04:51:01 pm »
unemployed humans doing it I'm sure...   Or maybe employed as spammer humans....

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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2015, 10:01:50 pm »
...and I always thought that quoting a spam message in total is worse than the (already deleted) spam itself.

It seems to be arabic or so which I can neither read nor understand. Probably it's not just advertising Viagra.
IF it is any kind of a radical statement I wouldn't want this to still be readable, would I? Anyone knows what it's about (google translator doesn't).
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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2015, 10:07:21 pm »
...and I always thought that quoting a spam message in total is worse than the (already deleted) spam itself.

Just as bad I guess, I snipped out the spam text.

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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2015, 10:33:23 am »
<snipped spam>

1.Post limit for new members?
2. Restricted board for new members?

I don't know if this forum software allows for it, but I once was a mod at a economics forum, and we used IPB. In there, the above two suggestions were standard functionality we used. Can SMF do this too, perhaps, especially the second one?
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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2015, 03:02:34 pm »
Anyone else noticed most all the spam in recent months happens at about the time India and similar parts of the world are starting work for the day? Makes me wonder how much of it now is people behind a keyboard rather than bots that are hitting us here at least.

<snipped spam>

1.Post limit for new members?
2. Restricted board for new members?

I don't know if this forum software allows for it, but I once was a mod at a economics forum, and we used IPB. In there, the above two suggestions were standard functionality we used. Can SMF do this too, perhaps, especially the second one?

Yes, though that'd be an inconvenience as much as it'd help anything. Quite often new users register to contribute to an existing thread, and that'd make it painful for them to do so. Some of those include some very smart people who contribute significantly in a small number of posts. John Brzozowski, Chief Architect of IPv6 at Comcast is one that comes to mind, though there are several others.

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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2015, 04:21:25 pm »
Is it possible to stop new users posting URLs or at least make them non-clickable?

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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2015, 02:54:14 pm »
I've slowly been exploring Discourse as an option to migrate to: http://www.discourse.org/

Twitter, among others, uses it for their developer community: https://twittercommunity.com/

Someone has written a migration tool for SMF 2 (that still needs to be looked at and tested): https://meta.discourse.org/t/importer-for-simple-machines-2-forums/17656

Sam and Jeff come from StackExchange where they had a lot of experience with dealing with spam and have some interesting solutions: https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-about-the-spam-problem/2724/6

Also, it isn't PHP, is mobile friendly, etc.

There is no time frame on the potential migration, but Discourse has a pretty hefty lead at this point.