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Offline Mr. Jingles

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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2015, 11:08:07 am »
Its like an arms race.  You can't win.

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We economists have graphs and difficult formulas on both, as well as huge databases with empirical data. Our preliminary hypothesis is that he who aims at the top might actually get there, while he who aims at the bottom most certainly gets there  :P

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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2015, 09:45:56 pm »
OK - So what exactly (not generally) will fix the spam once and for all?  Since you have the data...

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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2015, 09:59:13 pm »
OK - So what exactly (not generally) will fix the spam once and for all?  Since you have the data...

That is the exact same question a spammer would ask... just sayin.
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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2015, 10:02:04 pm »
Well - Sort of.  I just think that if someone is proposing to leave the current system there should be a better system to move on to.  Thats all.  And if you are a proponent of dumping the old system, you should have a new system in mind.  So, by this point I'd expect to see a list of better solutions.

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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2015, 10:10:42 pm »
Well - Sort of.  I just think that if someone is proposing to leave the current system there should be a better system to move on to.  Thats all.  And if you are a proponent of dumping the old system, you should have a new system in mind.  So, by this point I'd expect to see a list of better solutions.

Crap. I was only kidding. Can't you read facial expressions? :P

I agree though. I haven't seen any spam myself though and honestly, unless the spam takes up a few pages, I just ignore it. Spam is unavoidable.
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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2015, 04:39:34 am »
OK - So what exactly (not generally) will fix the spam once and for all?  Since you have the data...

Oh that's easy.  Pull the plug.   ;)

Kind of like killing a virus is easy too.  Keeping the patient alive through the ordeal is the difficulty.

But seriously the current measures seem to be within reason.  Don't notice much SPAM.

Saw CMB's note about not liking new account post limit.  But what about a rate limit so that if a new account starts spamming it can be detected and dealt with before it becomes a flood.  Yet it would still allow new "legit" accounts to participate.  Just at a little lower post rate.  Also maybe make it multifaceted by only applying it to high risk addresses, and/or other criteria.

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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2015, 04:46:20 am »
Most spam we kill by hand is only a single post per account.
So a rate-limit won't help.
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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2015, 06:43:05 am »
Spam at the moment seems to be at most mildly annoying. Where it becomes a problem is if spammers get better and post links to places where bad things happen. I would be in favour of preventing people posting clickable links for the first, say, 10 posts. New users with real problems can still post links but they won't be directly clickable. Of course I don't know if that's possible.  ;)

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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2015, 01:45:18 pm »
I would be in favour of preventing people posting clickable links for the first, say, 10 posts. New users with real problems can still post links but they won't be directly clickable. Of course I don't know if that's possible.  ;)

They wise up to that and post X+Y spam posts where X=# of posts before links are allowed. It may help stop a couple, but not the bad ones... We get some that drop between 20-50 spam posts in a very short time span.

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Re: About the spam trols
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2015, 02:04:04 pm »
Most spam we kill by hand is only a single post per account.
So a rate-limit won't help.

A rate limit is not intended for those accounts.  It's intended for the ones jimp mentiontions below.

They wise up to that and post X+Y spam posts where X=# of posts before links are allowed. It may help stop a couple, but not the bad ones... We get some that drop between 20-50 spam posts in a very short time span.